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		<title>By: sarah'smum</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2010 07:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to say that I appreciate the post and the discussion on this topic.  I have been searching for research on the true causes of low milk supply and actual rates of low supply from one country to the next and haven&#039;t been able to find much.  I suspect that most low supply issues are culturally based or environmentally influenced rather than genetic.  I agree that most women in industrialized countries who experience a low milk supply do not truly have biologically-based supply problems, but rather problems caused by lack of breastfeeding education and cultural support, lifestyles that don&#039;t lend themselves to breastfeeding, and feeding/sleeping practices that harm their milk supply.  However, I do think that there are some (but I think it is very rare) women who, for whatever reason, just have a low supply.  I think I may be one of those.  But I wish there was more research out there on the subject--like where did they get that 5% figure of women who have low supply???  I recently had a little girl and am a big proponent of full-term breastfeeding.  I had planned on exclusively breastfeeding for a really long time and had planned to continue breastfeeding until until she self-weaned.  I went to breastfeeding classes, and read every breastfeeding book I could get my hands on.  I don&#039;t smoke, drink, or do any drugs.  I didn&#039;t take any prescription or over-the-counter medications at all during my pregnancy--not even headache medicine.  I had a completely natural pregnancy and birth--no drugs, no interventions.  My daughter was on me skin to skin right after birth and we stayed skin to skin for almost the next three months day and night.  After her birth, I immediately breastfed her and continued to feed on demand constantly.  My milk came in between day 3 and 4 but she was feeding literally all the time (would take maybe 15 minute breaks here and there) and acted starving.  She hardly slept at all.  This went on for about a week and my husband and I got really worried.  She was losing weight and when I tried pumping, I got barely an ounce after an entire day of pumping every 2.5 hours.  Over the next few weeks and months, we visited 2 lactation consultants and 2 specialized breastfeeding doctors (who after several checks determined that my daughter was barely transferring any milk).  I read more books and scoured the internet (including kellymom.com and the &quot;making more milk&quot; book) for advice and help.  I did everything recommended by all them.  I took fenugreek and a host of other herbs/teas.  I took the drug &quot;domperidone&quot; (and even had to travel to another country to get a prescription for it--baby came with me), and I pumped every 2-3 hours with a hospital grade pump to try to &quot;trick&quot; my body into thinking it needed to produce more milk.  My pumped milk output eventually increased but only to about 4oz per day total and I think this was mainly due to doing compressions during pumping.  The lactation consultants and breastfeeding doctors had me try everything and said they couldn&#039;t figure out why I had such an extremely low supply.  They said I didn&#039;t fit any of the typical characteristics of the few women who do get low supply (like women with &quot;hypoplastic&quot; breasts and women who&#039;ve had breast reduction surgery, etc.)   We also ended up having my daughter&#039;s tongue snipped (several times) as the lactation consultants and breastfeeding doctors felt she showed signs of tongue tie, and while that improved her latch and decreased the nipple pain, it didn&#039;t improve my supply.  After the first week, and after everyone I talked to and everything I read basically indicated that my baby was starving.  I resorted to supplementing with formula (and I also fed her my miniscule amount of pumped milk) but not with a bottle.  Instead, I used a supplemental nursing system (tube taped to breast) to avoid nipple confusion and to try to salvage some semblance of a breastfeeding relationship.  I hated having to use formula and felt like a total failure for not being able to nourish and comfort my baby the way she deserved.  I cried all the time and was very self-conscious about having to use the supplemental nurser/tube thing when breastfeeding--even around family.  Every week there was a new challenge to nursing.  First it was a painful latch and with her feeding all the time because she was starving, it made my nipples hurt all the more.  That was exacerbated by the constant pumping.  But then I think my nipples just got used to it and &quot;toughened&quot; up a little and the tongue snipping helped improve the latch pain.  But then, ironically enough, even with my tiny milk supply, it was still enough to give me a few painful plugged ducts!  And as if latching wasn&#039;t hard enough, try getting a baby to latch onto a nipple and a tube!  Then came the difficulty in obtaining the domperidone--that was a real hassle.  Then her teeth started coming in and suddenly she would latch on and pop off would repeatedly come off latch (and the tape and tube would come off with her).  Then she started to figure out that the milk came more from the tube and not from the nipple and she started to adjust her latch to a more shallower (and more painful one), causing me to have to try different supplemental nursing systems and different size tubes in order to trick her into maintaining a decent latch.  Then I started to get skin damage on my breasts from applying and removing the adhesive tape.  Then at four months, my daughter started to get into that easily distractible stage and I had difficulty getting her to nurse especially during the day.  Then at 8 months, she started to become more mobile and started doing &quot;acrobatic&quot; nursing. . .which would be hard enough, but again trying to re-latch constantly with a tube is next to impossible.  Now at 9 months she is into &quot;rude&quot; nursing where she pinches and hits really hard.  All the while, I have continued to pump every 2.5-3 hours every day.  Although I&#039;m only able to pump the 4-5oz per day, I feel it is better than no breastmilk at all.  I am sharing all of this because I think it is important to get the word out to moms and the general public that even the most difficult nursing situations can be overcome, most low supply issues are not truly biologically based and/or can be improved--sometimes radically.  But I also think it is important for people to know that there are some women who have done everything &quot;right&quot; and who have tried &quot;everything&quot; and still have a low supply.  That said, I also want women with low supplies or women who are having nursing difficulties to know that at nine months I am still &quot;nursing&quot; my daughter (using the supplemental nursing system) and we both love it despite the challenging times.  I thought for sure that she would have rejected my breasts (with the tubes) by now, but she reaches for them when she&#039;s hungry and still prefers them to a bottle.  I am so glad that I have stuck with it because there is just nothing more gratifying than to be able to comfort her, to see her nuzzling and sucking away contentedly (even with the tube) and/or sleeping soundly in my arms after a good nursing session.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to say that I appreciate the post and the discussion on this topic.  I have been searching for research on the true causes of low milk supply and actual rates of low supply from one country to the next and haven&#8217;t been able to find much.  I suspect that most low supply issues are culturally based or environmentally influenced rather than genetic.  I agree that most women in industrialized countries who experience a low milk supply do not truly have biologically-based supply problems, but rather problems caused by lack of breastfeeding education and cultural support, lifestyles that don&#8217;t lend themselves to breastfeeding, and feeding/sleeping practices that harm their milk supply.  However, I do think that there are some (but I think it is very rare) women who, for whatever reason, just have a low supply.  I think I may be one of those.  But I wish there was more research out there on the subject&#8211;like where did they get that 5% figure of women who have low supply???  I recently had a little girl and am a big proponent of full-term breastfeeding.  I had planned on exclusively breastfeeding for a really long time and had planned to continue breastfeeding until until she self-weaned.  I went to breastfeeding classes, and read every breastfeeding book I could get my hands on.  I don&#8217;t smoke, drink, or do any drugs.  I didn&#8217;t take any prescription or over-the-counter medications at all during my pregnancy&#8211;not even headache medicine.  I had a completely natural pregnancy and birth&#8211;no drugs, no interventions.  My daughter was on me skin to skin right after birth and we stayed skin to skin for almost the next three months day and night.  After her birth, I immediately breastfed her and continued to feed on demand constantly.  My milk came in between day 3 and 4 but she was feeding literally all the time (would take maybe 15 minute breaks here and there) and acted starving.  She hardly slept at all.  This went on for about a week and my husband and I got really worried.  She was losing weight and when I tried pumping, I got barely an ounce after an entire day of pumping every 2.5 hours.  Over the next few weeks and months, we visited 2 lactation consultants and 2 specialized breastfeeding doctors (who after several checks determined that my daughter was barely transferring any milk).  I read more books and scoured the internet (including kellymom.com and the &#8220;making more milk&#8221; book) for advice and help.  I did everything recommended by all them.  I took fenugreek and a host of other herbs/teas.  I took the drug &#8220;domperidone&#8221; (and even had to travel to another country to get a prescription for it&#8211;baby came with me), and I pumped every 2-3 hours with a hospital grade pump to try to &#8220;trick&#8221; my body into thinking it needed to produce more milk.  My pumped milk output eventually increased but only to about 4oz per day total and I think this was mainly due to doing compressions during pumping.  The lactation consultants and breastfeeding doctors had me try everything and said they couldn&#8217;t figure out why I had such an extremely low supply.  They said I didn&#8217;t fit any of the typical characteristics of the few women who do get low supply (like women with &#8220;hypoplastic&#8221; breasts and women who&#8217;ve had breast reduction surgery, etc.)   We also ended up having my daughter&#8217;s tongue snipped (several times) as the lactation consultants and breastfeeding doctors felt she showed signs of tongue tie, and while that improved her latch and decreased the nipple pain, it didn&#8217;t improve my supply.  After the first week, and after everyone I talked to and everything I read basically indicated that my baby was starving.  I resorted to supplementing with formula (and I also fed her my miniscule amount of pumped milk) but not with a bottle.  Instead, I used a supplemental nursing system (tube taped to breast) to avoid nipple confusion and to try to salvage some semblance of a breastfeeding relationship.  I hated having to use formula and felt like a total failure for not being able to nourish and comfort my baby the way she deserved.  I cried all the time and was very self-conscious about having to use the supplemental nurser/tube thing when breastfeeding&#8211;even around family.  Every week there was a new challenge to nursing.  First it was a painful latch and with her feeding all the time because she was starving, it made my nipples hurt all the more.  That was exacerbated by the constant pumping.  But then I think my nipples just got used to it and &#8220;toughened&#8221; up a little and the tongue snipping helped improve the latch pain.  But then, ironically enough, even with my tiny milk supply, it was still enough to give me a few painful plugged ducts!  And as if latching wasn&#8217;t hard enough, try getting a baby to latch onto a nipple and a tube!  Then came the difficulty in obtaining the domperidone&#8211;that was a real hassle.  Then her teeth started coming in and suddenly she would latch on and pop off would repeatedly come off latch (and the tape and tube would come off with her).  Then she started to figure out that the milk came more from the tube and not from the nipple and she started to adjust her latch to a more shallower (and more painful one), causing me to have to try different supplemental nursing systems and different size tubes in order to trick her into maintaining a decent latch.  Then I started to get skin damage on my breasts from applying and removing the adhesive tape.  Then at four months, my daughter started to get into that easily distractible stage and I had difficulty getting her to nurse especially during the day.  Then at 8 months, she started to become more mobile and started doing &#8220;acrobatic&#8221; nursing. . .which would be hard enough, but again trying to re-latch constantly with a tube is next to impossible.  Now at 9 months she is into &#8220;rude&#8221; nursing where she pinches and hits really hard.  All the while, I have continued to pump every 2.5-3 hours every day.  Although I&#8217;m only able to pump the 4-5oz per day, I feel it is better than no breastmilk at all.  I am sharing all of this because I think it is important to get the word out to moms and the general public that even the most difficult nursing situations can be overcome, most low supply issues are not truly biologically based and/or can be improved&#8211;sometimes radically.  But I also think it is important for people to know that there are some women who have done everything &#8220;right&#8221; and who have tried &#8220;everything&#8221; and still have a low supply.  That said, I also want women with low supplies or women who are having nursing difficulties to know that at nine months I am still &#8220;nursing&#8221; my daughter (using the supplemental nursing system) and we both love it despite the challenging times.  I thought for sure that she would have rejected my breasts (with the tubes) by now, but she reaches for them when she&#8217;s hungry and still prefers them to a bottle.  I am so glad that I have stuck with it because there is just nothing more gratifying than to be able to comfort her, to see her nuzzling and sucking away contentedly (even with the tube) and/or sleeping soundly in my arms after a good nursing session.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole T</title>
		<link>http://healthygreenmoms.com/what-the-heck-is-wrong-with-our-milk/comment-page-1/#comment-3975</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicole T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 07:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s 3:30am, and I have to get off the internet, so just leaving my 2 cents...

In the hospital, they take your baby away from you, stuff them with formula, and then bring them back a few hours later, sound asleep.  I think it&#039;s important to be nursing your baby every couple of hours during those first few days, in order to establish your supply early.  The suckling is what cues your breasts to produce milk.

I had an emergency C-section, but still nursed my son minutes after birth, and did not allow him to stay in the nursery overnight.  I nursed him every time he woke up or started rooting around in his sleep.  I doubt he got much of anything, but that little bit of colostrum is so important.  On my last night in the hospital my milk came in.  My breasts were so full and uncomfortable, and LEAKY.  My son was in the nursery being &quot;checked up&quot; or whatever, and when they returned him they had given him a bottle so he had no interest in eating and I had to pump to relieve the pressure.  From that point on I never had any issues with supply (though I had latch issues, cracked and bleeding nipples, we got thrush a few days in, and I was actually producing too much milk and the foremilk/hindmilk imbalance gave him tummy upsets for a few weeks).  I attribute my ridiculous supply of Mommy Juice to actually having the opportunity to let him suckle.  Otherwise, how does your body know it needs to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s 3:30am, and I have to get off the internet, so just leaving my 2 cents&#8230;</p>
<p>In the hospital, they take your baby away from you, stuff them with formula, and then bring them back a few hours later, sound asleep.  I think it&#8217;s important to be nursing your baby every couple of hours during those first few days, in order to establish your supply early.  The suckling is what cues your breasts to produce milk.</p>
<p>I had an emergency C-section, but still nursed my son minutes after birth, and did not allow him to stay in the nursery overnight.  I nursed him every time he woke up or started rooting around in his sleep.  I doubt he got much of anything, but that little bit of colostrum is so important.  On my last night in the hospital my milk came in.  My breasts were so full and uncomfortable, and LEAKY.  My son was in the nursery being &#8220;checked up&#8221; or whatever, and when they returned him they had given him a bottle so he had no interest in eating and I had to pump to relieve the pressure.  From that point on I never had any issues with supply (though I had latch issues, cracked and bleeding nipples, we got thrush a few days in, and I was actually producing too much milk and the foremilk/hindmilk imbalance gave him tummy upsets for a few weeks).  I attribute my ridiculous supply of Mommy Juice to actually having the opportunity to let him suckle.  Otherwise, how does your body know it needs to?</p>
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		<title>By: Melodie</title>
		<link>http://healthygreenmoms.com/what-the-heck-is-wrong-with-our-milk/comment-page-1/#comment-1951</link>
		<dc:creator>Melodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Monica,
An award for you awaits at my site. For all your support and help and encouragement in these semi-early days of blogging and of course your excellent  posts.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Melodies last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/BreastfeedingMomsUnite/~3/Oyi-MA4Fwuk/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;My First Award and Love Links&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Monica,<br />
An award for you awaits at my site. For all your support and help and encouragement in these semi-early days of blogging and of course your excellent  posts.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Melodies last blog post..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/BreastfeedingMomsUnite/~3/Oyi-MA4Fwuk/" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/feedproxy.google.com/_r/BreastfeedingMomsUnite/_3/Oyi-MA4Fwuk/?referer=');">My First Award and Love Links</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Hope (of hippie dippie bébé)</title>
		<link>http://healthygreenmoms.com/what-the-heck-is-wrong-with-our-milk/comment-page-1/#comment-1945</link>
		<dc:creator>Hope (of hippie dippie bébé)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 00:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Monica for quoting my comment! 

Great post! It&#039;s exciting to read about the results of your research, and I agree that it&#039;s fascinating to dig a little bit deeper with these kinds of social phenomenon, especially when there are obvious cross-cultural differences. 

My biggest take-away personally from your post is your point about the value in seeking out support structures while you&#039;re still pregnant. I actually didn&#039;t do this with my second child because I was lucky to have an easy time with my first. Fascinatingly, Little D actually had a harder time, and it underlined for me that many of the problems women have initially with breastfeeding are actually out of the scope of their control. It&#039;s so easy to judge ourselves when breastfeeding or weight gain isn&#039;t progressing as we&#039;d like. Yet though we can seek help and support, we are actually not the ones doing the feeding, it&#039;s our babies!

I also agree that it&#039;s important for that magic statistic of 5% be more visible in our culture, both because it clarifies for many women that it&#039;s worth trying all their options as their chances are good, and because it reminds us all that 5% does exist -- there are real biological problems that occur for 1 out of every 20 moms.

That having been said, I&#039;ll end with an interesting anecdote that echoes Evelyn&#039;s comment about stress. My mother herself may have been one of those 5%, and she still mourns her inability to breastfeed to this day. One of the support systems she personally had back in the 70&#039;s was actually that of her mother-in-law, my paternal grandmother, who was from the Philippines and moved to the U.S. as a nurse in the late 60&#039;s. This is what Grandma Espie had to say:

&quot;Jan, what are you doing? Why are you doing all this work? You just had a baby and you need to rest. You shouldn&#039;t be doing anything. You should lie in bed and eat soup. In my country, when the mother has the baby, she doesn&#039;t cook, she doesn&#039;t go anywhere. Someone does these things for her. You should lie in bed and eat soup so you can make more milk.&quot;

A traditional remedy we can borrow here? Maybe we need to start telling the daddy bloggers about this one!

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Hope (of hippie dippie bébé)s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/HippieDippieBebe/~3/HyWdlvp64C0/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Is it Wrong to Openly Support Breastfeeding?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Monica for quoting my comment! </p>
<p>Great post! It&#8217;s exciting to read about the results of your research, and I agree that it&#8217;s fascinating to dig a little bit deeper with these kinds of social phenomenon, especially when there are obvious cross-cultural differences. </p>
<p>My biggest take-away personally from your post is your point about the value in seeking out support structures while you&#8217;re still pregnant. I actually didn&#8217;t do this with my second child because I was lucky to have an easy time with my first. Fascinatingly, Little D actually had a harder time, and it underlined for me that many of the problems women have initially with breastfeeding are actually out of the scope of their control. It&#8217;s so easy to judge ourselves when breastfeeding or weight gain isn&#8217;t progressing as we&#8217;d like. Yet though we can seek help and support, we are actually not the ones doing the feeding, it&#8217;s our babies!</p>
<p>I also agree that it&#8217;s important for that magic statistic of 5% be more visible in our culture, both because it clarifies for many women that it&#8217;s worth trying all their options as their chances are good, and because it reminds us all that 5% does exist &#8212; there are real biological problems that occur for 1 out of every 20 moms.</p>
<p>That having been said, I&#8217;ll end with an interesting anecdote that echoes Evelyn&#8217;s comment about stress. My mother herself may have been one of those 5%, and she still mourns her inability to breastfeed to this day. One of the support systems she personally had back in the 70&#8242;s was actually that of her mother-in-law, my paternal grandmother, who was from the Philippines and moved to the U.S. as a nurse in the late 60&#8242;s. This is what Grandma Espie had to say:</p>
<p>&#8220;Jan, what are you doing? Why are you doing all this work? You just had a baby and you need to rest. You shouldn&#8217;t be doing anything. You should lie in bed and eat soup. In my country, when the mother has the baby, she doesn&#8217;t cook, she doesn&#8217;t go anywhere. Someone does these things for her. You should lie in bed and eat soup so you can make more milk.&#8221;</p>
<p>A traditional remedy we can borrow here? Maybe we need to start telling the daddy bloggers about this one!</p>
<p><abbr><em>Hope (of hippie dippie bébé)s last blog post..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/HippieDippieBebe/~3/HyWdlvp64C0/" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/feedproxy.google.com/_r/HippieDippieBebe/_3/HyWdlvp64C0/?referer=');">Is it Wrong to Openly Support Breastfeeding?</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Annie @ PhD in Parenting</title>
		<link>http://healthygreenmoms.com/what-the-heck-is-wrong-with-our-milk/comment-page-1/#comment-1940</link>
		<dc:creator>Annie @ PhD in Parenting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 01:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of moms deal with supply issues. Some of them are perceived supply issues and some of them are real. Some of them could be overcome with proper breastfeeding techniques and realistic expectations. Some of them stem from medical reasons. The problem is that the lack of good knowledge about lactation about moms and health professionals mean that lost of moms lack confidence about their ability to feed their baby. 

Low milk supply is quoted as the number one reason women quit breastfeeding. But the problem is that too few people understand how milk production works (http://www.kellymom.com/bf/supply/milkproduction.html) and too many of them think they have low milk supply or don&#039;t know how to increase their milk supply (http://www.kellymom.com/bf/supply/milkproduction.html). 

Often when people think they have low milk supply, they supplement. But supplementing is a slippery slope for a few reasons. First, it looks like the baby is hungrily gulping down the bottle, when really it is a sucking reflex when drinking from a bottle that forces one suck to be followed by another. It is a common reason why bottle fed babies (whether getting formula or breastmilk in the bottle) are overfed. Second, every time you give your baby formula and don&#039;t pump in place of that formula feeding, you are decreasing your supply. The more formula you give, the less breastmilk you will make, and the more formula you will have to give.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Annie @ PhD in Parentings last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/03/11/blogher-09/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BlogHer ‘09&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of moms deal with supply issues. Some of them are perceived supply issues and some of them are real. Some of them could be overcome with proper breastfeeding techniques and realistic expectations. Some of them stem from medical reasons. The problem is that the lack of good knowledge about lactation about moms and health professionals mean that lost of moms lack confidence about their ability to feed their baby. </p>
<p>Low milk supply is quoted as the number one reason women quit breastfeeding. But the problem is that too few people understand how milk production works (<a href="http://www.kellymom.com/bf/supply/milkproduction.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.kellymom.com/bf/supply/milkproduction.html?referer=');">http://www.kellymom.com/bf/supply/milkproduction.html</a>) and too many of them think they have low milk supply or don&#8217;t know how to increase their milk supply (<a href="http://www.kellymom.com/bf/supply/milkproduction.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.kellymom.com/bf/supply/milkproduction.html?referer=');">http://www.kellymom.com/bf/supply/milkproduction.html</a>). </p>
<p>Often when people think they have low milk supply, they supplement. But supplementing is a slippery slope for a few reasons. First, it looks like the baby is hungrily gulping down the bottle, when really it is a sucking reflex when drinking from a bottle that forces one suck to be followed by another. It is a common reason why bottle fed babies (whether getting formula or breastmilk in the bottle) are overfed. Second, every time you give your baby formula and don&#8217;t pump in place of that formula feeding, you are decreasing your supply. The more formula you give, the less breastmilk you will make, and the more formula you will have to give.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Annie @ PhD in Parentings last blog post..<a href="http://www.phdinparenting.com/2009/03/11/blogher-09/" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.phdinparenting.com/2009/03/11/blogher-09/?referer=');">BlogHer ‘09</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Monica</title>
		<link>http://healthygreenmoms.com/what-the-heck-is-wrong-with-our-milk/comment-page-1/#comment-1921</link>
		<dc:creator>Monica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jessica - It is an emotional topic! My intention was to start a discussion that might help clear some misconceptions so new moms have the best chance of success while at the same time stress the need for mutual support between moms, regardless of the outcome. I hope I was able to do some of that, because it was a difficult article for me to articulate! You are right, in the end, less judgement and a little more understanding goes a long way :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jessica &#8211; It is an emotional topic! My intention was to start a discussion that might help clear some misconceptions so new moms have the best chance of success while at the same time stress the need for mutual support between moms, regardless of the outcome. I hope I was able to do some of that, because it was a difficult article for me to articulate! You are right, in the end, less judgement and a little more understanding goes a long way <img src='http://healthygreenmoms.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Monica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Evelyn - Sadly breastfeeding has a ways to go in our society where a mother has adequate support to continue. All these factors play into our decisions and it is certainly a big dilemma for moms in our complex world. Hopefully, with continued discussion, we can continue to question some of the misinformation that exists. Yes, I have heard people regard formula as being more healthy as well. Yeesh!

@Tiffany - Yes, actually the story Sommer shared on her blog about Colleen raised a red flag for me when I wondered why on earth she would be led to believe she should have any milk 24 hours after delivery. It was 3 days for me. Liv lost 13oz in the first week but I had her to my breast every 1.5-2 hours to stimulate and soothe her regardless. Once the milk came in I continued to feed her on the same time schedule rather than a 3-4 hour routine many use. I believe this really helped my milk come in strong and abundant. I too would be interested in more research re: 5% and possible factors like health, toxins, in-vitro etc...Hmmm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Evelyn &#8211; Sadly breastfeeding has a ways to go in our society where a mother has adequate support to continue. All these factors play into our decisions and it is certainly a big dilemma for moms in our complex world. Hopefully, with continued discussion, we can continue to question some of the misinformation that exists. Yes, I have heard people regard formula as being more healthy as well. Yeesh!</p>
<p>@Tiffany &#8211; Yes, actually the story Sommer shared on her blog about Colleen raised a red flag for me when I wondered why on earth she would be led to believe she should have any milk 24 hours after delivery. It was 3 days for me. Liv lost 13oz in the first week but I had her to my breast every 1.5-2 hours to stimulate and soothe her regardless. Once the milk came in I continued to feed her on the same time schedule rather than a 3-4 hour routine many use. I believe this really helped my milk come in strong and abundant. I too would be interested in more research re: 5% and possible factors like health, toxins, in-vitro etc&#8230;Hmmm.</p>
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